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Welcome to Topsail Insider where you can hear all about the businesses and events in the beautiful coastal towns in the greater Topsail area of North Carolina.
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Coming up today, we have Trudy hosting Ms Chris Leonard, marine biologist and owner of and educator at Funky Fans Eco Education for Curious Minds.
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She offers outdoor classes on the beach and in the marsh, teaching kids, tweens, teens and adults all about the sea life you find right here in the greater Topsail area.
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Welcome to Topsail Insider.
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My name is Trudy and I am your host.
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Let's get to our guest today.
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Today, we are talking with Chris Leonard, and she is the creator of Funky Fins.
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Welcome, chris.
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Thank you so much for joining us.
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Thanks for having me.
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Yeah, we have been having a lot of fun exploring so many cool things to do in the summer here on Topsail Island, and I've recently found out about this adventurous and educational activities provided by Funky Fins.
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So, chris, I want you to tell everyone what kinds of adventures you're providing for our community.
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I'm providing adventures for the family when they come to Topsail Island, so what I'm interested in doing is sharing all the different coastal environments with them, helping them to become more environmentally aware and conservation conscious, and I work with ages from two to 102, all kinds Anybody who wants to come out and learn something about the island.
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You've opened my eyes to a lot of different opportunities, not just being out on the beach, but the marshes and everything too.
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So you've got several locations right.
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Yes, Right now this summer I'm rotating through five different programs.
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I'm teaching a treasure hunters, which is shark tooth collecting and other treasures on North Topsail Beach.
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I'm teaching explore the shore, which is for three to nine year olds and the parents can come and play for free.
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That's on Topsail Beach.
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I also do a fish printing program.
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So I love that you're using all different parts of the island too.
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You don't just have one spot you're going to and you're really maximizing on the different pieces of the island, and the different lay of the beaches are different, you know.
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Yes.
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So I'm also teaching a learning with loggerheads program and that is on Topsail Beach, and then I teach off the island as well, because I want people to see more than just Topsail Island, because it's all about the ocean environment and not specifically just the coast there.
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So we're also going over to Stump Sound and Morris Landing and we do a family marsh madness program there.
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So these are all programs that you dreamed up.
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I mean based on your knowledge or based on what families and people are wanting to know.
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As a marine biologist I have a lot of knowledge about the ocean, but I've also spent many years teaching school.
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So I've taught in school for over 20 years and I wrote a lot of curriculum, so that kind of thing comes real easy to me.
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All right, we're going to get to that because I want to hear your background.
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But what was your goal in creating this business?
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So in creating this business, my goal was to make a connection between people that are coming to visit the ocean and the ocean with the people and the ocean with the people.
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So I think it's really important that people understand that what they do directly affects the ocean and that the health of our ocean directly affects us.
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I do want to talk about you personally and where you've come from, because I have a lot of respect for the background you have.
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You're not from North Carolina.
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I'm not from North Carolina.
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Let's talk.
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You can't tell by my accent I know, I know, so share with us where you're from and how you came here.
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How'd you come here?
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Yeah, how you got here.
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Well, I grew up on the Jersey Shore, so I've always had a love for the ocean.
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I spent a little bit of time living in Chicago, not near the ocean, and then got re-transplanted back to the Connecticut coast, so the reason why I'm here is because it's warm, quite honestly, yes we've heard, our weather is better than Connecticut.
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There's no snow here, but what brought me to North Carolina, to this specific area, was I had a friend which many people know, jean Beasley, who was the director of the Sea Turtle Hospital for many, many years, and we had met at an international symposium because, aside from being a teacher and a marine biologist, my specialty happens to be sea turtle migrations.
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I was going to ask you how did you meet the great Jean Beasley?
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That's wonderful, yeah, so you met her.
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How many years ago it was probably 15, 20 years ago, when I met Jean.
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Wow, okay, yeah.
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But you ended up being a teacher because I know you also.
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You do have funky fins as your business, and that was what we're talking about today, but you're an excellent tutor and you help a lot of students, so you have a teaching background.
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I do have a teaching background.
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I worked mostly in independent school systems so, like Cape Fear Academy is one that's close to us, I worked in the independent school system for almost 20 years teaching math and science.
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You have a love of the ocean.
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You ended up being a teacher, but there's lots of other parts too.
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There are a lot of other parts.
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So I went to school for marine science and then, when I graduated, I worked as a biologist at the Maritime Aquarium in South Norwalk, Connecticut, and I was one of the original biologists there.
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And during my time as a biologist I happened to get pregnant.
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One of my jobs was to feed the seals, which you would climb like Spider-Man across the windowsill to get out to the rookery where the seals were Well at six months pregnant.
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My belly didn't fit, so I fell into the pool in front of about 300 people and they quickly pulled me out.
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How did the seals feel about this.
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That's what everybody says to me.
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How were the seals?
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Were they friendly?
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Did you pet them?
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I was just worried about getting out of the pool, and that followed me for many, many, many years.
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When I would come into the aquarium, people would say are you the lady that fell in the pool?
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Yes, they remember that.
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Well, when I left there, I was pretty young, I was 24.
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Well, when I left there, I was pretty young, I was 24.
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And so I had just got out of college.
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This was my first job and I really wanted to make a mark in marine science and I felt like, oh no, now I'm going to be home and I mean, it's the greatest job in the world being a mom right, let's just say that.
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But I was just starting my career and I didn't want to just be labeled as not having the experience and being a stay-at-home mom.
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So I created a business there and it was called Traveling Sea Squirts and I traveled all around Connecticut and many counties in New York and I had little igloo coolers with animals that I got from my friends that were oystermen.
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I would call the boats and they would keep their bycatch and save it for me and then I would go down and pick what I wanted and I would travel around to the schools and I would teach marine science, and I did that while my kids were little for about 10 years.
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That's a long time it was.
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And then I got tired of driving and that was a lot of distance.
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Right, it was a lot of distance.
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It was a lot of distance, it was a lot of distance.
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And then, after about 10 years of doing it, I decided that I really wanted to stay put and not be driving so much.
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So a friend of mine said you know, you can teach in a private school without a teaching certification.
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So I went in and I covered a sabbatical at a school in Lower Fairfield County in Connecticut and when my year was done they said we really want you to stay, so we've created this job for you.
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And I thought, well, that's pretty cool.
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So I built this lower school science curriculum there and then quickly graduated and they were moving me to do some middle school classes.
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Well, a school in Upper Fairfield County found out about my sea turtle program because the school had a large budget for professional development.
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And they said to me we want to send you somewhere to study marine life.
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If you could pick anything that you want to do, what would you want to study?
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And I said, well, I don't really know a lot about sea turtles to study marine life.
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If you could pick anything that you want to do, what would you want to study?
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And I said well, I don't really know a lot about sea turtles.
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So they said okay, we'll find someone, a PhD or somebody to work with and we'll send you to study with them.
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Wow, so I did an Earthwatch program and I met Dr Tony Tucker and he was amazing and we had a great time.
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I was down there for 10 days in Florida studying sea turtles and when I came home we kind of hit it off.
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So he called me up and he said hey, do you think you could scoop up some money at your school and maybe you could come down and we'll try to put some satellite tags on sea turtles, because he was very interested in doing research on migration patterns in the Gulf of Mexico.
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So I was very blessed and very lucky for a very long time.
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But it started out at New Canaan Country School, the first school that I worked at, and they funded a sea turtle for me, a satellite.
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Actually they funded five the first year and it was really cool because the kids got to name them and then I went down there and put the transmitters on them and then I thought about well, how can I get the kids to learn about them in the classroom?
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So I published a curriculum for teachers and it's still online.
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It's on cturtleorg and it's about how do you use scientific data live scientific data in your classroom and it teaches you all about.
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You can go on cturtleorg, you can take all of the longitude and latitude points and then you can bring them into the classroom and the kids can map them and it teaches them so many different kinds of skills.
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But it's all live science.
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So I did that for 15 years.
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But I had another school that was up county where I lived, and they kind of stole me away from the other school.
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They said we want you to come up.
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We're building a science curriculum.
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We hear what you did down there is fantastic, and we want you to come up and consult because we want to start a science program in our elementary school.
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We don't have one.
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And I said, sure, a science program in our elementary school, we don't have one.
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And I said, sure.
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So I went up and I met with the headmaster there and we sat and went over what they were looking for their program to look like and so I developed the program for them and I tried to get them started in contacts with the Moat Marine Lab, which is who I worked with as a visiting scientist for 15 years Marine Lab, which is who I worked with as a visiting scientist for 15 years and I thought about it and I said, well, why would I not work here, which is closer to my kids, instead of doing all that driving?
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So I wound up switching schools and I worked at Worcester School in Danbury, connecticut, for 15 years and I was just really lucky and blessed that they were excited about what I was doing and I had a field studies program where I could take high school kids with me during the time that I was putting the transmitters on and they could actually do the turtle work with me and we would go around Memorial Day weekend.
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We'd stay for about a week and they would do all of the work and then we would come home and then we'd use my curriculum in the lower school and the middle school classrooms to track the turtles.
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How exciting for them it was really fun.
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Yeah, so seriously, you went from working in an aquarium to taking your coolers, dragging your coolers around, and then you went to private schools or independent schools, and then you ended up in research and you've published curriculum and then you ended up figuring out how to combine the school system and the research.
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I mean, that's the way I see it, am I?
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missing something.
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No, I mean it was funny because when I was working down there in Florida, we were on the beach one night and we were just waiting for turtles to come up, which you know in Florida they come up a lot more than they do in North Carolina.
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True, very true.
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But Tony said to me why don't you go back to school and get your master's oh?
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And I thought, oh gosh, because at this point I was probably in my early 40s.
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Well, the other thing you've done so well, too, is keep your kids prevalent in everything you were doing too.
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You're making decisions career decisions around them too.
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Right, because now you're talking about Because I was a mom first, right yeah?
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And now you're talking about going back to school.
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I can imagine that's like I know.
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And so I was like oh, I don't know if I want to do this, it was.
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So I started scraping the backs of loggerhead sea turtles, because they travel around like little islands and so wherever they migrate from, things are falling and floating on their backs and landing on their backs, and so they would come up on the beaches to nest, and then I would collect everything on their backs.
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And I would put it in little tiny jars and I would send it up to Yale and then I would go back up to Connecticut and then I would spend hours in the lab looking at little, tiny, microscopic things, trying to identify them and counting them, which was very tedious.
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Did you publish or do anything with that information?
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That information went to Tony's study when he was doing migrations, because what we were looking for to see if there was an indicator species on the backs of the sea turtles where other countries.
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It's very pricey to have a satellite transmitter on the back of a sea turtle.
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So not only do you have to pay for that, but you have to pay for the airtime, for the Argos airtime.
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So we're trying to find a more affordable way for other countries and other places that didn't have that kind of money.
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And so we did find that there are indicator species and there are things on the backs of sea turtles that tell the story of where they're coming and going from, and there was a lot of work being done on that right now.
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All right.
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Well, your son is a teacher too, so as you're being a mom and you're dragging my kids to turtle beaches, so what does he do?
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Is he in the same field?
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He is in the same field.
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He is a marine biologist.
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He also studied sea turtles alongside of me for quite a few years and he is presently going to Mexico on Saturday to study whale sharks.
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I'm a little jealous, I bet you are.
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Yeah, well, he'll share his information with you.
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I hope so.
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So obviously your son was inspired by all the things you were showing him and he was seeing mom do, and he got involved, and you involved a lot of kids along the way, which is fabulous, but it had to start somewhere.
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So how did you get inspired?
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I just always really was fascinated by the ocean, and as a kid, growing up and being on the Jersey Shore all the time, one of my favorite things to do is just walk the beach or pick around in the tide pools.
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I thought that was the coolest thing, and even as an adult, I can spend hours out there doing it.
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As I get older.
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I do recall talking to my parents and asking them about studying whales because I think that that's a common animal that people connect with when they're young and my dad said you go to college and you can just study whales and I thought, wow, that's really cool, but your parents weren't in this field or anything.
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No, my parents were in the field at all, but they both grew up in New Jersey and we just spent a lot of time at the beach and now you're helping other families really appreciate the beach and see stuff that I don't know, that they would all stop and recognize with your programs.
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I like that it's really interesting.
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So when they're out on the beach with me even, you know, sometimes you look at the beach and you think, oh, there's nothing out there.
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But once I get people out there and they start looking around and digging around and they're paying more attention because they're really looking.
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They're like, wow, I didn't know this lived here.
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Wow, I didn't know that this had this on its body.
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You know, they start to discover new things and that's really cool for me because, like for me to go on the beach and someone see like a horseshoe crab for the first time is like better than going to Disney, frankly.
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And cheaper, so that's good.
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And it's in our backyard, I think that's good.
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So you mentioned earlier about getting the visitors to come and see and learn, but there's a lot of our locals who really need that information too.
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Yeah, and.
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I find that there are a lot of locals that take my programs, but one of the most amazing experiences that I had was two years ago in February.
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I had a family from Ohio contact me and they wanted to go out on the marsh and I thought, okay, february, that's the coldest month for us right, so I took them out on the marsh.
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The kids had never seen the ocean.
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Oh wow, it was so amazing.
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They even swam.
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But see, don't you enjoy it so much more when you have a new person.
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Yes, like you live through them and their excitement, and then you're just brought back to your early days of when you were discovering things too.
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It just keeps it all so fresh, and I think that's why I've been a teacher for so long and I continue to you know work with kids Because the amazement and the exploration and the discovery and just the awe of everything when they find something new yeah, it gets me so excited.
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That's awesome.
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I love it Thinking about your education too.
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So you went to school two different times.
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You did college, but you went later.
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Someone mentions go get your master's.
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Did you do it?
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I did.
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I went back to get my master's.
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The school that I was attending, western Connecticut State at the time, had done away with their oceanography master's.
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So I thought, well, where am I going to go?
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Because the college was really close to me and they kind of just created this environmental science focusing on sea turtle ecology masters for me so that I could, with a graduating class of one Basically no.
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That's great.
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Yeah, I just see a lot of great opportunities that opened up a lot of people who were supporting you and helping you find this crazy awesome path.
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I love it.
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Yeah, I mean, marine science is something that you really have to go after.
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I think there's so many different fields in marine science to study and I would love to go back to school at UNC Wilmington.
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Every time I go there to hear a lecture I'm just like, oh, I want to go back to college because it's so great there.
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But I think it's something that there are jobs and things out there.
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I just was in a position where I was young and I was having a family and I was trying to going back to school, so I had to create things as I went along.
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It was kind of like being a magician.
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Well, now your kids are grown, you can go do other things.
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Now I can do whatever I want.
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That's great, all right, I want to get back to you.
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Said you got connected to Topsil because of meeting Jean Beasley.
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Yes, we just celebrated the 25th anniversary of the Karen Beasley Sea Turtle Rescue and Rehabilitation Center last year and that is always a mouthful when I say it.
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So what ties do you have with that group?
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Do you do anything?
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with the hospital.
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I had a very short stint working in the sea turtle hospital and then I decided that I would work on my big thing was the night patrol.
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So I was really attracted to the night patrol, and what I like about here is how it's used for education, because working in places like Florida, I worked in Costa Rica, I worked in Bermuda, I worked in Mexico they don't sit by sea turtle nests.
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They don't, they don't, and we make such a big deal about it, of sitting at the nests and waiting, and every time I sit there I think about how special that is, because in Florida, with our 100,000 nests a year, you know the mamas come up, we study them and do what we need to do and then they go back into the ocean and the nests are left and we make sure that they're safe and they're all tucked in and we do all of the things that you folks do here with the stakes and putting up the tape and protecting them.
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But I never saw in the 15 years that I did sea turtle research.
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I never saw a hatchling until I came to Topsil.
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Beach.
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Oh my gosh.
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Really, I never saw one.
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You think it's the quantity, though?
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Florida has a hundred thousand nests and north carolina has a thousand.
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Was it just they just too much to keep up with?
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I don't know.
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That's interesting but I also think that in north carolina, because you're so far north that you're producing most of the males, because it's the weather is cooler, yeah, explain that I think it's well.
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The sea turtle eggs are temperature dependent, sex determination and so, because we're so far north, some of the sand does not get as warm as it does down in Florida.
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So that gives these sea turtle eggs an advantage of incubating at a cooler temperature, which produces male sea turtles.
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So what I think is really cool is when you're sitting there and you're protecting their nest and you have that experience of watching them go into the ocean.
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Many of those sea turtles may be males.
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Yeah, which we need?
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If you've got 100,000 nests down in Florida and you feel like they're predominantly female, then it's important for North Carolina to have it.
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I mean that sand is very warm, it's hot.
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I mean that sand is very warm, it's hot, I mean there are some places inside of the nest that are cooler than others, so is there a chance?
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That some males could be popping out of there.
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Sure, yeah, but I think predominantly in North Carolina we're probably producing more males because the temperatures and the conditions are different and much cooler.
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I love that.
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Our listeners can learn that little tidbit.
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So you're always sharing information.
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Chris, you're just full of information and I love that.
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I love hearing all the history, how you got here, your wealth of knowledge.
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You truly know what you're doing and I think that's super because I can see you're pulling from so much information that you've gathered over the years with your research, with your classes.